Why I'm a Pirate!
Le mercredi, janvier 18 2012, 09:56 :: advocacy, albedo, buzz, drm, musique, pirate,
Dear copyright industry, I'm a pirate. I'm the typical user you are fighting. I'm downloading everything and not giving you one single penny. I don't even attend concert. You hate me and it's reciprocal.
When I discovered high-speed Internet, I was a naive young innocent. I was downloading to discover new stuffs. Whenever I liked something, I would go to the shop and buy the CD. I discovered lot of music thanks to the pirate networks. Randomly or following advices. In the end, I bought something like 200 CDs. The first group I've joined on Audioscrobbler was called "I still buy CDs". But today I regret that. I'm asking everyone to not buy CD any more. Not a single one !
Because you are not offering a good service
When I want to discover an artist or a movie, I'm heading to The Pirate Bay, I launch a search and I click. In less than 10 minutes, I've a full movie on my disk. In 20, I've the complete discography of an artist.
I would pay for such a service if it is as simple, as fast and, unlike the Bay, if it can make some guarantees on the quality. But you don't offer that. Instead, you are trying to build fences and limitations. You are asking for huge amount of money only through credit card and you don't have half the music I'm looking for. That's not convenient and it's more expensive.
I don't even talk about CDs any more. This is now only a huge quantity of plastic waste, sitting in my living room. They are expensive, they become unreadable through the years or, thanks to DRM, they are unreadable since the first day.
In summary, you are offering less for a more expensive price.
Because you don't use my money well
I've probably spent something like 2000€ for my CDs. You need to add the taxes on all the blank CDs I used to burn Linux iso. From that money, how much went to the artists and their studio? 100€? 200€? Everything else was probably diluted in stuffs I don't need: packaging, distribution, transport, marketing, …
Your companies are in the top richest ones. The artists that are the most downloaded live in huge luxury houses. Others are dead. Don't you find it a bit shameful to try the "bad pirates are killing the poor artists" story?
I'm sorry but I don't think you need my money. I've showed my support to small artists with Flattr, Jamendo, CDbaby or Magnatune. For everything else, you will have to live without my wallet.
Because you are messing with my life
That's it. Every penny I will give you will be used against me. Firstly, by making it difficult for me to use what I buy. Zoned DVDs, encrypted movies on the DVD requiring illegal software to be read under Linux or DRM to be sure I'm not able to listen to a CD.
Worst, you will use my money to sue me in court because I would have downloaded something that I didn't want to buy anyway! With the change left, you will pay lobbyists to ensure the governments make stupid and dangerous laws.
Do you want me to pay lawyers to sue myself and lobbyists to make laws to send me in jails? Really?
Because you are destroying the whole society
Messing with my life was not enough. You are even trying to destroy one of the pillar of our society: education. Your heavy marketing is starting to work, people now understand the importance of "intellectual property" and that "sharing is bad".
Bloody ignorant morons.
Thanks to you, schools are now afraid to give lectures in case there are some copyrighted materials in them. Teachers fear to be sued. To the point where giving the strictly minimal lesson is better than giving some examples. Famous works are not part of the education any more.
Some teachers themselves start to consider their lectures as "copyrighted material", refusing to share it with colleagues. And when they attend training sessions, offered by the state and paid with public funds, it is to hear that the material of the session can be read but has to be bought if the teachers want to use them in their own classroom.
You are destroying the very symbol of civilisation: the enjoyment of knowledge, the joy of sharing, the cooperation and the education. I will never forgive you for that. Never. If I'm not taking action right now, my children will be more afraid of reading a copyrighted book than stealing in a shop or hitting someone with a knife. Those crimes are anyway less punished by the law than sharing a song on the internet.
How can you look at yourself in the mirror after that? How can you still have a peaceful sleep ?
Because your time has come
If I'm a pirate, it's not to have some cheap music. It is because the time has come for you to fuck off. In your arrogance, you are hurting the fundamental value of freedom only to save your little petty interests.
The only comfort is to know that you will disappear soon. And nobody will miss you.
Pirately yours,
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Indeed! Really nice and sincere post! Keep on!
It is a fair statement of the consumer perspective, and the complete failure of the big content rightsholders to provide a desirable service where every child starts life with a copy of their parents' entire life collection on the music or video player.
But what about the content creator, who is also not served by the big content rightsholders? Mega music corporations pour immense amounts into just a few mega stars, and nothing into identifying and nurturing new talent (unless you would buy X-Factor or America's Got Talent cover versions of old acts).
Sometime the content creators must create or take control of a system where your money ends up in their pockets.
Is this post copyrighted?
It's a tricky situation. As you say every penny spent with the larger entertainment companies seems to end up being used directly against us the end users. What I find most tragic is when you have artists vehemently supporting the system that they themselves are so screwed by. Time was record companies etc. had a purpose, recording and advertising was very expensive thus a need existed to aggregate risk over many acts. These days these services are almost free and the record companies exist without purpose.
Personally, I try to support services that will eventually lead to cutting out the middle man. For example Spotify is a great example of giving users what they want. Once streaming services like this get enough of a following they can start publishing acts directly and cut out the record companies completely. As you say nobody will miss them.
Even though I don't actively pirate, I strongly agree with the sentiment. Far too much of the money I pay goes to the middlemen with little or nothing going to the actual artists. And insultingly, all their (on DVDs: unskippable) crap anti-piracy warnings inconvenience *only* paying customers like myself. Bloody ignorant morons indeed.
TrollMonkey > As said in the well hidden about page, everything on this blog is under CC-By.
AWESOME POST.
Awesome post, 100% with you
Seems you have made the hackernews home page, with some less than flattering comments!
Today, you sir, are my hero....
Great Article!
@Charles Keepax: "What I find most tragic is when you have artists vehemently supporting the system that they themselves are so screwed by."
I'd like to compare such artists with founders of a tech startup: Most founders start as tech employees. And most tech employees I know are more or less unsatisfied with their day job. They all would love to start their own company. But there is this layer of legal BS you have to break through (i.e. investments, forced memberships, corporate laws etc.). Most talented people I know won't put up with that layer, simply because it's so far away from their occupation and has nothing to do with their business idea.
But once you digged through that pile of legal BS sucessfully, you will very often come to like this layer. You tell yourself, that it makes sense that i.e. it's not that easy to start a business or that founders must put up cash up front to start up. You tell yourself that it is good to add this "layer of quality".
But what a lot of successful founders don't want to confess to themselves is that it's just comfortable to have this BS layer that shields out competition. Because you know, that there are talents out there - like your old tech employee friends - that would eat your business alive within days if unleashed.
i stopped reading at piratebay.org
Pseudo > I've read the HN comments and they are interesting, well discussed. I think that it worth a larger debate.
But most of the comments miss my major point: the industry is messing up the whole society. That copyright thing is now in every mind. The examples from the teachers are real and first-hand.
And, yes, I believe that it is a direct result of their constant lobbying/marketing against piracy.
Most HN comments concentrate on the first paragraphs of this post. I admit that I may not be clear enough, English is not my mother language and I may not be fluent enough.
+1
So, next time someone take your GPL source code, use it linking to it, and don't give the compensation you asked when licensing it as GPL, to distribute the source code if because they linked to it (not all compensation is monetary), will you stay quiet and let them be pirates?
If you do not want the terms someone tries to licence you something, be it software, music a book, simply do not buy it
I get the pirate impulse but what a bunch of crap. You don't like middlemen so you'd rather see a musician get NOTHING. You don't like the way they use your money so you'd rather see a musician get NOTHING.
You are a pirate because you are a petty thief, and all this is nothing but rationalization.
BTW I'm a pirate too.
Peter, musicians should just realise they need to sell music themselves without record companies and they will start making money again.
I understand your frustration, but some of your arguments ring hollow to me. I mean complaining that Pirate Bay offers a better service than commercial offerings and using it to justify piracy is very close to justifying shoplifting by the staff at your local store not being very service minded.
Yes, I agree that the MPAA and similar are morally bankrupt and seemed to be prepared to make absolutely any argument to get their way, no matter how false. But should we really let the moral failings of the MPAA be an excuse to be just as morally debased ourselves?
Elhana - why do pro-piracy people always know so little of how music is bought and sold?
It's always 'destroy the big bad record labels' or 'sell it youself'. We have decades of (almost always) more artist friendly independent record labels and distribution. Do they get ripped off too?
Btw.. I'm not above this. I dabble my toes in these waters too. We all do.
So true...Sharing is what could make a society sustainable and manageable...I spent almost two years in a small town in Chad, (Sarh). And there sharing knowledge is a no go because knowledge is power (and money). However the people don't see that sharing would make their lifes much easier for the whole town but would not allow an individual to control all computers. (The guy would had an antivirus AVG-Free 1 year old, aksed 30 € (1 year salary) for an installation)
Educate people to share....
what is worse than entertainment industry is these patent wars Apple vs the world (vs Samsung,vs Microsoft vs...) Patents were supposed to help progress, now we see that it is just plain bullshit.
Keep on Sharing!
I would like you to imagine if your properties in your house are stealed or robbed when you are away from home. Your opinion on this post is to permit everyone to steal and rob your all properties.
Hey, just let me steal your all money and your family, or why don't you give your all money away to charity or so?
Don't you feel any anger when your works will be shared without your permission or the other way you want to?
If you are a artist or someone who create something, you can't post such a shameful post. Copyright is very important right for artists and musicians to live yourself in this society.
You are just a only ugly consumer with no respct to every art in this world. You're just consuming every someone's works with any respect.
Shame on you, F**k'n pirate!!!
I would likely not have a job today if I were unable to learn what I have through the tens of thousands of dollars worth of pirated books and papers that I would otherwise not have access to. Maybe I'm somewhat unusual, being an almost entirely self-educated hacker. As an experienced independent researcher I believe I can safely say that, despite how great a resource the internet is, the very best information available today is not free, even in the case of the better covered disciplines such as computer science and I.T. It's locked away behind academic paywalls, outrageously priced college textbooks, and non-free technical specifications - well out of reach of those who need them most, in the quantities that are required to really learn what you're doing. Books are a lot like CDs in that respect. You buy an album and maybe find one or two songs you like.
I'm also a former professional musician with a rather serious education from a prestigious conservatory. The vast majority of us never see significant income from the "record industry", at least not directly. If we do it's a couple hundred bucks for a studio session. Truly rare is it for one to get those sorts of gigs with the frequency required to put food on the table. The reality is that most working musicians don't pay the bills through record sales. We do it through teaching, gigging (mostly live performance or contract work), touring, and independent record sales. Regular income is rarely a guarantee.
I'd happily trade it all for the ability to listen to whatever I want whenever I want. You can rest assured that by pirating music, you're not costing the job of anyone who will miss it.
This and the related discussion in HN made my day.
I only wish I could share this through google+.
Cheers, keep it up
Why do so many people who pirate music have such a gross misunderstanding of the music industry? This is so ill-informed it's laughable.
Please run for president (EU) !
Finally somebody puts it straight. I've grown tired of the politically correct attitude of those who claim that we should still buy CDs if we like the music etc.
Great post.
I've often felt guilty about not buying the albums of bands I absolutely love. There was just no use for the physical album, I already had good quality downloads of it and never plays cd's anyway, only mp3's. So, I was bold enough to contact my favorite band and tell them. I also told them, that I'd love to support them directly by donating money. A plus for them would be that they didn't just have an income after a cd-release, but a more steady income throughout their existence. Guess what? They added a download button to their website and guess what? I don't have a lot of money, but I already donate small amounts twice. And I'll probably continue to do so, which will eventually be more money for them then they would've gotten from me from their albumsales.
This, my dear friends, is a prime example of how bands can still get an income as being the creator of their art.
Check the website link for information on how they did it!
All those comments (the real and the astroturfed) that compare pirating to stealing have to remember that:
1) you' re not stealing, other people can buy the same merchandise the same amount of the time
2) the companies keep telling you are "stealing" works that these companies lobbied to keep under copyright FOREVER, when under the legislation that was current EVEN WHEN SOME OF THE WORKS WERE BEING PUBLISHED (Beatles, anyone?) they should have gone into the public domain.
If we give in and stop fighting for our rights (and pirating puts pressure on them!), they will remove the public domain altogether, or maybe make it meaningless (500 years after author' s death? 100 years after the conglomerate that holds the copyright dissolves?)
Gus
"1) you' re not stealing, other people can buy the same merchandise the same amount of the time"
What does that mean? Seriously. It's not stealing if other people are buying at the same time?
Some of these pirating justifications make no sense.
What a bull shit. You want high quality unrestricted content? You find it all over the web, but you have to pay for it, parasite.
Ploum: I think you need a lesson in the basics of logic-based analysis.
I agree, tired of being "politically correct" in regards to the "Artists" (you mean the Entertainment Industry right?).
I don't care anymore about the industry and anyone who defends it. It's goals have nothing to do with compensating artists and/or promoting creativity.
I have taken a vow to not purchase anything that provides any income to these thieves. Yes the MPAA and friends are thieves, they are trying to steal our right to do what we want on OUR Internet.
This is amazing, clear and perfectly expressed. Congratulations!
Really :) Awesome Article ...
I M A PIRATE :D
I will Sail Forever in the Oceans of Piracy :D
There's a discussion about your post on HackerNews : http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id...
Hi, two questions for you and whoever else pirates (I used to too)...
Why is it that you can't pay for software, pay for music via iTunes or Amazon, and pay for movies via Netflix, iTunes, or Google Movies?
Do you think you have a right to access copyrighted software, music, and movies without paying for it?
Love it! Good work!
I used to pirate stuffs. I still do, but I used to, too.
Super Cool! :)
This whole piracy issue is a touchy subject but if you believe what you are doing is right then, keep on doing you thing. thanks for the post.
I cancelled my $80 per month emusic subscription because they will not let me re-download the music that I have already purchased. I understand that that is probably something they did based on pressure from the music industry... so take that music industry.
It doesn't matter what laws you make, a savvy internet user can always get around them. Are you going to stop me from having a cloud account or a remote server that I SSH into? You would have to unplug the entire internet...and then I would dial in, so even that wouldn't stop me. The only way you are going to stop me is by making it easy for me to buy what I want!
I used to be a huge pirate but I'm not anymore... except for one thing and that's live streaming of cable television. Quite honestly, I wish everyone pirated cable television until it is offered a la carte. The way these media companies stuff packages down consumers throats is just evil.
Peter, stealing mean:
1. To take (the property of another) without right or permission.
2. To present or use (someone else's words or ideas) as one's own.
Taking usually is moving (mv), but "piracy" is copying (cp). If I go to Louvre and paint a copy of Mona Lisa, no one will write headlines like "Mona Lisa has been stolen" next morning.
Spencer,
try reading all the post, not just the first heading. At least read all headings.
You Sir, are a pirate I can look up to. Thank you for writing this.
Do what ya want 'cause a pirate is free, You are a pirate!
Tanzistors -
I read the post and the headings. So you're saying that downloading music or movies without paying for them is the same as drawing your own copy of the Mona Lisa? That's crazy. You'd have to be an idiot to believe that.
You gave me an even worse defense of privacy.
Platon and Epicure didn't copyright, Jesus (if he even existed) didn't copyright, neither did Newton, Darwin, Pasteur, Mozart... Did Madonna, Steve Jobs or mickey mouse change the world ? Come ooon ;)
Copyright is a disease in a society where many think that their little persona & talent is so unique that their piece of music/code/drawing/video deserves to be a forever unaltered royalty source,... all dyyying to immitate lunatics (ie: power hungry people with no inhibition, be it politicians, rock stars, code stars) who did succeed to become as rich as Cresus with a hack, an exploit : people do what they are told. As Neil Stephenson might have writen somewhere, That's the biggest, gaping backdoor in humanity's code, that's never been successfully patched.
Fast evolution, of society but quite anything else too, only comes from sharing. I'm not interested in regression.
I dig the message 100%. and i *did* buy my minecraft license.
"As said in the well hidden about page, everything on this blog is under CC-By."
Why anyone should care? Everyone should be free to share that as their own text without mentioning you at all....
Why you care anything about GPL or any free software? Why you even are writing to blog what is listed in planet.gnome.org?
You are just a terrible person and you are doing huge damages to free software!
You should shame what kind bad person you are.
You do not accept that artists goes and choose their ways to sell and produce their work. So why should anyone else accept at all how do you or any other free software developer does?
You don't have rights to any the media what you proudly say copying without permission.
I bet you were angry when Microsoft and others copied GPL software modified without releasing code....
You are just selfish person without ethics and without logic.
Bravo!! it was an amazing description of how a lot of people feel!! I was thinking today, what if the law it's approved? what can I do? well I'm doing what I can to share all about sopa, but I read Lamar Smith will continue promoting it in february, or something like that, I guess this is not going away very soon, what I thought maybe there could be a way to protest not just on the internet, but maybe we could stop going to the movies and watch those crappy hollywood films, we can stop watching networks, stop buying products from brands that support it, no downloading music for a while, I'm not saying don't support the artists, or stop doing what you love, but we have to make a sacrifice, we should do it, united, choose a week, a frame of time to show them if they take away our freedom they'll loose our money (what they really care), I don't know if someone has more ideas please share!!
The last CD I bought gave me a virus. A rootkit virus courtesy of Sony BMG and intended to deliberately infect my computer and limit my abilities to use the content I had purchased. Never looking back.
Hahaha, a masterpiece! Finally someone spills it like it is.
I'm a pirate too... totally agree, thanks!
I've never bought a single CD, and proud of it. I've never been to a concert of sports game either. For me scientists are the true heroes, not entertainers. Used to be a pirate, but then security issues drove me to buy laptops with OS preinstalled. I Now stand as a champion of Open Source. Too many of our freedoms are being violated in the name of profits. Use Libre Office for productivity, Use Ubuntu for OS. Be the change.
I am not a pirate. And what you are doing is stealing. You can justify it anyway you want, but in the end you are stealing.
Laws are made to be followed, without them there is no sense of property. Whether you agree with it or not.
Ever heard of iTunes?
"I don't want to pay a buck for a song" then listen to the radio. I don't want to pay 250000 for a Lambo, but I am not going to go rip it off for free.
You are the reason that SOPA gets presented in the first place. With out this disregard for intellectual property, we wouldn't be threatened with these SOPA laws.
You are a pirate yes, and you are also the reason the internet could get shutdown.
awesome post, Ploum!
Yarr matey!
You are a genius writer, and my hero. I support everything you say 100% and so should every other person in their right mind. There are more and more of us every day, people. We can do this.
Keep fighting the good fight. They will never take our Internet, our home.
[8]x (it's the tape and bones :P)
Pirately yours,
Spela (Yes, there are girls on the internet.)
I was having a discussion today, if piracy was really the one to blame in the demise of the music industry or any industry, and found some really interesting articles, if you have the time please read and if someone else have others please share! (while we can)
http://www.digiave.net/piracy-didnt...
http://www.debatingeurope.eu/2011/1...
http://copyrightandtechnology.com/2...
http://www.techzim.co.zw/2011/12/te... (this one blames technology but it doesn't hurt to read)
I am an American and I was considering very similar thoughts to myself this afternoon and came to a realization that if SOPA/PIPA or legislation of that nature do pass not only will I boycott the entertainment industry, I promise to spend how ever much would be needed to continue to safely and effectively pirate and undermine their greedy ways.
bandcamp.com is an easy way to discover artists in a way that supports them.. just fyi- this is the service that the entertainment industry should have written the day MP3s came out.
I am waiting for the 'samplers' and DJs getting screwed by PA acts for copywright infringement.Its alarming only the tech company took part today.
A quick question for the astroturfers:
The marginal cost, to the media company, of providing a download is close to zero. However, there is a large capital investment involved in producing a Hollywood blockbuster.
Likewise, the marginal cost of producing a single tablet of a new wonder-drug is close to zero. However, there is a large capital investment in the R&D to get it to that stage.
In order to make this system work, we let drug companies patent new drugs, to give them a period of exclusivity to recoup their costs, say 20 years. (Yes, some people are unhappy about this, but let's leave that aside for the moment: the system mostly works.)
The media companies on the other hand, want zero marginal costs *and perpetual exclusivity*! And failing that, they'll just push for longer and longer terms instead.
So here's a question. Given that distribution costs are negligable, why can't we cut the term of copyright to 20 years, the same as drug patents?
I think a lot of people who currently feel ripped off would be much happier to pay a lot for the lastest movies, if they could also download anything made/recorded before 1992 for free, perfectly legally.
translated version into spanish: https://fueradelmapa.org/archivo/po...
@tristan: bien dit !
I'd add that I think the PIPA/SOPA business is an attempt at giving some big corporations (and i'm not thinking of google here) the "legal" means of buying/merging ISPs, and taking control of the internet media. And not i'm not a conspirationist, As it has happened with any other media in the XXth century (telephone, film, radio, television, cable tv,...)
@notapirate : sir, you sortof make me wonder what you have studied at school, or say anytime after thanks to the internet.
"laws are made to be obeyed". Yeah, like nazi laws, or say an axe-of-evil-country law ?... Nothing is all white or all black. The thing that does not work in our democracies is that ppl like Montesqieu or Toqueville thought of separation of powers as of paramount importance, but back in the time, the media was inexistant and no corporation except maybe the anceatic league had a iota of the power states held back then. They simply didn't think of separating the media from the executive/legislative/judiciar, formally. And as your expressed beliefs on the nature of theft seem to indicate, the media quite got the message to you.
Maybe read Tristan's message just above mine, as it nails the problem : established corps want to use copyright as Irredimable securities, this is so feudal, so antidemocratic that i can't believe that the country which co-invented democracy, the antitrust laws, etc... Is headed into that direction itself.
You could also read the excellent history book called the "master switch" by Tim Wu, and remember that <<Theodore Vail, founder of the Bell System, the greatest information empire of all time, and a capitalist whose faith in Soviet-style central planning set the course of every information industry thereafter>>
And as you seem to be unable to see any other color than black and white, let's try some grey :
- i do download ANY CD/cassette that i have once bought, whatever the music industry assholes say
- i buy music on magnatune on a monthly basis
- i always pay for something that i like (minecraft, but not those shitty one person shooters with awesome graphics) if i can afford it (which i now can) : that includes osx, that does not include windows.
- if i've paid a cinema ticket to go see a movie with my wife, and say, bought the VHS back in the day, i will not buy it another time. Period.
Am i stealing ? Who am i stealing ? Isn't it the other way around ?
Very well put... my thoughts exactly :)
Great article. Indeed, it is foolish nonsense to pay an industry so they can have lawyers sue us, and have lobbyists change our democracies into corporations' dictatorships...
Anyway, I want to share with the Internet community, the two following drawings. For free! If you like them, use them as you want (including making money out of them if that is possible!). I am the author of these images that I release into the public domain as copyrights-free images:
http://www.dcrouzet.net/temporary/P...
http://www.dcrouzet.net/temporary/P...
Year,I'm a pirate too. Keep up this good article!
I support this post. Very well argumented and just cited , word by word, what i think. Thank you!
If I have 100 CD's and I sell you one, I now have 99 left. This is called scarcity and it is one of the foundations of economics as we are taught it in schools.
If I have one MP3, and I give one to you, there are now 2 MP3. If we each give it to 100 more people, then there are now 202 MP3 - this is the opposite of scarcity.
The economics that we know and are taught, the economics that these dinosaur companies are founded upon and exploit, no longer apply to digital 'products'.
This is scary for them, as they are no longer required for distribution, for marketing - really they are not needed at all any more. So they sue and lobby to protect their turf, but it is inevitable, they will go soon.
I bet the horse and cart manufacturers lobbied hard to stop cars when they were first invented too. But now we do not ride horses and carts.
Consider a new, completely digital market place such as the app store - connects buyers directly to content creators, no middle man, no record company, fair prices, and little-to-no piracy. I buy an app for 1.99 without thinking, and I'd buy an album for 1.99 cents too - if most of it made it to the artist.
Until then, I'll buy my music from bandcamp. if you;re not on bandcamp, you're on pirate bay.
Do you really think the industry will disappear ? Sorry, but that is the thinking of youth and inexperience.
When tape recorders became common, the music industry threw a fit because people could share the music on records. When video recorders became common the movie industry threw a fit because people could share movies from TV or copy them.
But it did not kill the industry, on the contrary the industry grew. Internet sharing is more than 20 years old. It is just the people who are getting more and more a ' mine is mine' attitude that makes the industry strong.
If you are an artist, you make music because that is what you like to do. If many people like it, you will make money. If not, you will need to find a day job. That is the basics, but artists refuse to let people enjoy them.
Music, movie and software industry has become big as a result of sharing. If we can not share, the industry might indeed die. They are committing suicide by restricting users.
Well said man. It's time for the real thieves to do one!
Rebuttal here:
http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread...
Like fire, guns, and knives are tools that can be used by people to do good or bad; the internet, bit torrent, and sites like Pirate Bay can be used for good or bad.
You are one of the people who chose to harm others (artists, creators, marketers) justified by your own selfish interests. You also harm me and endanger my freedoms because by stealing/pirating over the internet, you do more to support the SOPA/PIPA cause than anything else.
I am against SOPA/PIPA, but I am also against stealing/pirating.
Just act responsibly.
WE ARE COMING FOR YOU.
TONIGHT.
Lionel,
Reconnais tout de même que si copier un film ne coûte rien, produire un film coûte une somme monstrueuse, et présente même le risque de tout simplement perdre une partie de l'investissement sans le moindre bénéfice.
Alors si chacun télécharge gratuitement, qui paye la production ?
On achète le matériel, on embauche des techniciens, des acteurs, on achète l'œuvre du scénariste et tout puis quoi ? On le distribue gratuitement sur BitTorrent ?
On le rentabilise comment, Lionel ?
La charité ? On organise un appel aux dons ?
C'est ça, Lionel, ton modèle économique ?
Your "why I'm a pirate" is a real memorandum. Something of such a type HAD to appear. Do you have a plan of making some page where web-surfers can sign it? :)
awesome. keep being vocal about what you believe is right.
I have been a pirate since the dial up days.
I was pissed off with the one hit wonders of the British pop chart, many of my CDs have 13 shit songs + the one I liked.
The other night, I was in a taxi. It was playing a song I liked, so when I got home, I went to the artist's website to buy the track... Nope, not possible.
Piratebay had the music video on my hard drive in minutes.
Music industry = Fucking fail.
grow up you cunt.
I think I'm going to make a better english translation of this work and copy it all over the web. WELL DONE! There are some very uneducated trolls on this board who should really do more research on the evil advent of intellectual property.
A friend sent me the link to this post yesterday after I published Be a Pirate! http://www.acidzen.org/2012/be-a-pi...
I'm not posting this comment and the link to self-promote but to answer all those comments here that sharing and pirating is hurting the artists. That's simply not true. Or to put it rightfully: That's a lie created by recording industry!
They are not just middlemen, they are parasites imposing themselves and taking a huge cut of the profits without giving any value. And to remain in that position they are using black-mail and threat: music and movies will stop if we don't give them money.
Again: that's a lie. In mentioned post I took just two of the many cases where it is obvious that not that authors get their money by publishing their work on their sites without any DRM and for a small fee or even free but that they actually make more profit that way than they did by going the usual route.
I feel your arguments are a bit stupid and a bit "fight the man".
If you think that someone does not use your money well, then it doesn't mean you can take their content/productions for no charge. For example, if you disagree with a government's spending of money on arnaments, does this mean that you can stop paying taxes and help yourself to all of the services provided, such as police, fire rescue, hospital treatment? No it does not. The same goes for music.
Additionally, if someone doesn't like the way you spend your money, does this entitle them to use GPL code that you have written in their own non-GPL products? No it does not. It is the same issue.
If you feel that they are not offering a good service, don't expect to get their content and make do without. If I paid you to mow my lawn every week but felt you were doing a bad job of it, would you continue to come and mow my lawn for no money? No. Could I expect you to come and mow my lawn? No. Could I help myself to your equipment and you yourself, with your time? No I could not. The same is true here.
I write software for money. If someone comes and takes my software without my permission and without paying the fee I ask for it, it has not deprived me of the software as it is just a copy of bytes. But it has meant that I am not getting paid for my creation, my time, my effort. It does not matter that there is no physical item that has gone missing, but I have still not been paid for my work, which is wrong. If they want to use my software, they must pay. Just because someone wants it without paying does not mean that they should have it.
Any way they attempt to justify the freeloading does not make it right.
If you feel that the artist is not getting the money he deserves, that's not your problem. The artist has made a deal with the record industry as their distributor. So by downloading the artist's music from elsewhere, you are not helping the artist, because they have made the decision to distribute their music through the industry. You are going against their wishes.
But if you disagree with getting their music from their chosen distribution channel, don't expect to get the music.
I also play music. If I play in a venue, the people three doors down the road shouldn't expect to hear the music from the venue. The venue is my chosen distribution channel, and they have to be in it to listen. Just because someone three doors down the road wants to listen without paying for entry into the venue does not mean that they should get it.
If you don't like the system, don't use the content. Don't attempt to justify your behaviour as morally superior, because two wrongs do not make a right.